Southport Forums - A Walk Along The Tideline

Thu 5th Dec 2002, 03:41 PM

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A Walk Along The Tideline

Following on from yesterday ,today I went for a walk along the seaward edge of the shore where the tide now stops. Some of the pics are a bit yucky to say the least.

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Thu 5th Dec 2002, 05:51 PM

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Thu 5th Dec 2002, 06:43 PM

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It appears to me that you are very concerned about the environment by these pictures. However judging by your comments on Birkdale sand dunes i would say otherwise.

Could you tell me where you stand, and if you are genuinly concerned about the environments destruction, what are you doing about it??

Many thanks.

Thu 5th Dec 2002, 10:05 PM

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It seems to have been cleaned up since my last visit.

Thu 5th Dec 2002, 11:54 PM

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Do you have a job Roving?

Fri 6th Dec 2002, 02:30 AM

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Birkdale Beach Following high tide

Intentional Negative Reporting.

Why not visit some other areas of coast in the north west following a high tide with strong onshore winds and heavy rainfall.

The situations the same.

All this rubbish that arrives via the Rivers Ribble; Alt; Mersey, Dee and others become the responsibility of local Council the clear up. Roving, do you expect the Councils to sit on th beach (as King Canute) and tell it to go away.

Why not use your extensive reporting hours to join a national campaign cordinated by the Marine Conservation Society to raise awareness of marine and riverine pollution rather than continously having a go at the local Council who have no control over what washes up - but is expected to spend scarce resources removing it.

I'm aware that Sefton Council actually support and take part in this survey, even though the annual report can be negative when reported in the press. A good example of the Council not burying its head in the 'sand', but taking part in a national wareness programme. You obviously have no idea, go away and read some books on the subject and stop listeneing to dodgy infomation from whoever it is. Because I'm afraid it is becoming obvious that your argument has nothing to do with the subject matter, but one of a personal vendetta.

Is it any wonder tat Soutport.gb.com is struggling in its quest to be accepted by the local Council when a limited amount of its reporting is based on person grudges.

Fri 6th Dec 2002, 04:40 AM

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Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww! Touchy!

What's wrong with reporting on Southport's grot spots? I don't see the problem with having this brought to our attention.

Roving ~ some of the pictorial content isn't pretty... but good camera work nevertheless!

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Fri 6th Dec 2002, 11:45 PM

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A Good Report

I've created controversy with this before after writing a report on the Jazz festival - it contained descriptive narration on the event as well as some pics to back it up. Some people said it was boring - they said they liked looking at pictures . . .

Well, go and buy The Sun or The Sport !

In my opinion a report isnt JUST pictures.

A good report requires words and those words should be from an informed / up to date viewpoint and try to present a non biased account . . . .

Pigs lined up and ready to fly . . .

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Sat 7th Dec 2002, 02:10 PM

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Messy shores

Hi there,

You are all obviously concerned about the state of your local areas, but exactly what are you doing about it.

This may be seen as the first stage of doing something, by raising awarness, yet what is next?

I somehow guess that no-one will do anything but moan. Will any of you activly do something or not? I would love to know the answer! There is so much you could do to stop this happening but are any of you willing to fight for your local habitats? I don't really think any of you will, without wanting to sound rude. Many people complain to the hilt that they dislike something about their local area yet never actually do anything about it.

Don't you think its time to do something worthwile about it??

Sat 7th Dec 2002, 05:19 PM

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Today and tomorrow there are wildlife/countryside people on the pier talking to the public, identifying birds etc. Too late for today, but wouldn't a positive way forward be to approach these people personally tomorrow and (re)acquaint them with our concerns. Then they might realise something really does need to be done.
You could start by demanding that the concrete, scaffolding tubes and other rubbish left by the contractors be removed from the beach around the pier itself. (Why is the cost for this rubbish removal not being funded from the retention monies on the contract instalment payments?)
Also that some action is taken to halt the advance of the spartina grass.

Sat 7th Dec 2002, 07:39 PM

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As we have many new members here is a link to some old threads.

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I hope they make good reading

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Sun 8th Dec 2002, 01:42 AM

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Birkdale Beach

Babs,

I agree with Roving Eye and anyone else raising the profile of issues such as the problemS of marine and other debris that washes down our local rivers in winter or originates from shipping, except for the bird that looks likea Guillemot. There has to be an identified story in the reporting and identified targets in respect of who we are those responsible - such as shipping organisations and the public; all of the rubbish pictured was obviuously washed up on the recent high tides. Most of the debris comes from far inland and there is a national perspective to this issue in respect of education. Your local Council is probably equally frustrated by the problems - which are out with its control.

My slant on the post was that everything is not perfect - but there are more positive aspects to your coastline that there are negatives. It is one of the most beautiful and natural landscapes in England and there needs to be some balance in how the issues are reported on the www. - it is worldwide.

Picture this:

A family somewhere in the Country decide to visit and stay in the North West next summer. They want to stay in a coastal location with good amenities, shops and wildlife; within driving distance of Liverpool, Manchester, Chester.

They look at the potential locations; Morecambe, Blackpool and Southport. They search the net and find Southport on a site called Southport.GB., they log on and find a thread (News Spot), looking at a the shore. They decide to stay elsewhere; but we all now that the best location is SOUTHPORT!

There is many a small business and other employers in addition to the major investments that rely on visitors, these have to be taken into account when reporting day to day issues relating to Southport and the locality.

There is no doubt that raising the profile of environmental issues is of great importance, but there is a need to make sure that the reporting has a clear message and is balanced to show the positive aspects of your special coast.

I have looked at previous threads and have formed my own opinion - but I will leave it a that.

SOUTHPORT

Sun 8th Dec 2002, 09:09 AM

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RUBBISH

Samac

with regard to the rubbish on the shoreline the two truck wheels are well back from the high tide mark and judging from the grass growing thru them they have been there ages as has the beer barrel which was embedded in the filth.

While I was down on the shore the BEACH PATROL in a land rover went past me three times and not once did he stop to remove anything like the plastic oil drum which was clearly visable to all.

The only part of the beach the Council care about is the part opposite the ocean plaza so they can fly the worthless Seaside Award flag.

One group of people THE SOUTHPORT BEACH PROTECTION GROUP found some pics on here and contacted me to try to highlight the problem for them.

SBPG

A picture of mine was in the Champion showing how wonderful Formby Beach can be.

I do not consider my reporting to be negative but then again I do not look at the world thru rose tinted glasses!

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Sun 8th Dec 2002, 02:04 PM

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If Sefton Council do not want criticism of their neglect of this town, why can't they address the problems highlighted here. It's not as if these things are hidden or difficult to find. Perhaps also some, or ALL, of our politicians, AND THEIR ASSISTANTS, of who one thought that a nature reserve was a patch of derelict land, need to have a walk around and see what actually exists along the seafront and beach instead of simply waffling away in meetings about things they simply know little or nothing about.
Also suggest that the councillors need to read these forums as a matter of course. At the East Southport Area Committe held on 5th December last at Bishop David Sheppard School, Devonshire Road, ALL 4 LibDem councillors present thought that the damage to the steps to the substation at Eastbank roundabout was an act of vandalism. Only Councillor Grundy of The Southport Party was aware it was caused by a car crash, as previously reported on these forums.